NHL News: Matt Duchene or Mark Stone?

The Ottawa Senators Should DEFINITELY Sign Mark Stone Over Matt Duchene

This a major issue for Ottawa right now. Duchene or Stone? Stone is 26-years-old, an elite scoring winger, perhaps not a franchise level talent but he ranks among the top-20 for players 26-years-old or younger. Duchene is 28-years-old and again an elite forward, can we say franchise talent, sure but he is 28-years-old now so I do not know if I am building a franchise around him right now.

Duchene has played 697 games in the NHL collecting a respectable 525 points (222G, 303A), a 0.75 point per game player in his career. Not too shabby. On the year he has 48 points in 41 games (21G, 27A), has recorded six 50+ point seasons in his career and is a player that skates extremely well, can score goals and play with just about anyone. He is playing Bobby Ryan and Ryan Dzingel and producing quite well.

Stone has played 359 NHL games recording a very respectable 300 career NHL points (117G, 183A), a 0.83 point per game player. On the year Stone has 51 points in 52 games (22G, 29A). Over his career he has recorded over 50 points every year he has been in the NHL despite 2012-13 when he played 4 games and 2013-14 when he played 19 games (in which he had 8 points). Stone is playing with two very young players this year Colin White and Brady Tkachuk and at almost a point per game (0.98).

In my opinion the Senators should move on from Matt Duchene for two reasons, for Duchene to stay they are going to need to over pay him a ton, he is going to ask for 10.5-11 million dollars a year and while Duchene is good he is not worth that money. Reason two, while he seems to be fitting in well with Ottawa right now, when he gets his contract, signs and gets comfortable there, he may not be the same player. Players always play well going into a contract year or on the verge of free agency. He is clearly not a great team/locker room guy with the incident in Ottawa this year in Colorado two years ago. I think Stone fits the Senators way better than Duchene, Stone was drafted in Ottawa has made a name for himself in Ottawa, has a history here, you know what you are going to get from him, his teammates love him and overall Stone just seems like a more secure and suitable option for Ottawa.

As well Stone will probably cost around 7.5-8.5, comparable to a Ryan O’Reilly player who is on a sheet of 7.5 million a year. Stone may cost a little more than O’Reilly per say just because Stone would be their guy and Ottawa is not in a great situation therefore throw him an extra 1-1.5 million a year just because it may not be too great for the first 3-4 years of his contract. Duchene is going to ask for 10+ million for five to six years, money wise, Stone will be cheaper and looking at their career numbers and what they bring to the table it is not like Duchene is head over heels a better player than Stone.

Keep Stone in Ottawa, get a ton of assets for Duchene and move on. With Duchene’s last statement regarding his contract extension talk.

“If I had a gut feeling I’d probably go with it right now but at this point we’re not at that point.” Duchene said after speaking about his contract extension.

This quote alone would make me want to not sign Duchene. What does this even mean? He is just delaying the inevitable of alluding to the fact that he is not going to re-sign in Ottawa. I feel as if Ottawa and Duchene’s agent are way off and it would make no sense to try and work out a deal when you can save the money and get a ton of assets for Duchene.

Current NHL Bad Contracts

Current NHL Contracts That Have Not Paid Out…

David Backes: Since coming to Boston it has not been all glamour for Backes. He has missed time almost every season and it is obvious the speed of the game is changing too rapidly for him to be the Backes we once knew. Last season he missed 25 games and in his 2.5 years in Boston he has played in 169 games. He was recently named a healthy scratch as well for Boston’s game Saturday night. Backes has played in 169 games collecting 83 points plus 18 playoff games and 7 points. For 6 million a year the Bruins probably would like to be using that money elsewhere.

Frans Nielsen: The Red Wings got a little excited when Nielsen scored 52 points with the Islanders the season before, the Red Wings brought him during free agency heading into the 2016-17 season and he scored 41 points in 79 games but since then Nielsen has tallied 33 points in 79 games in 2017-18 and currently 26 points in 45 games this season. For a 34-year-old aging out of this league with still four years left on his contract the Red Wings could have used 5.25 million a year on some defenseman.

Bobby Ryan: Ryan has dealt with some injury issues during his time in Ottawa since sighing that 7.25 million dollar deal. After his two 50-point seasons the Senators basically had to give Ryan a nice contract. Well, it has turned around to bite them, since his contract signing heading into the 2016-17 season, Ryan has tallied 62 points in 169 games and has missed 40 games in two seasons. For 7.25 million ending in 2022-23 the Senators really are kicking themselves with this one.

Ryan Callahan: After Callahan’s 77 games played and 54 point year he earned a 6 million dollar deal but with the game speed changing so quickly, the Lightning getting a lot of young stars on the rise and Calhan dealing with injuries that contract has not paid out. Callahan has played in 196 games in the last 3.5 years collecting 62 points in that time plus 31 playoff games and 7 points. I am sure the Lightning would like to get this one back so they can feel a little more secure on singing their young players right now.

Brandon Dubinsky: Dubinsky’s contract of 4.5 million before this 5.85 million not to mention the signing bonus would have been better but for 5.85 million dollars signed in 2016. Dubinsky has played in 175 games collecting 67 points plus he was mainly brought for his playoff experience and veteran ship but that has not panned out either. As he has played in 11 playoff games with 2 points since his contract signing. I’m sure Columbus would like some free cap for Artemi Panarin this off-season.

Johnny Boychuk: Since being signed to a 6 million dollar deal with a salary cap of 7.5 million Boychuk has definitely not lived up to those expectations. Boychuk has played in 170 games since 2016 contract signing collecting 53 points. He is off to a better start this year not having missed a game (knock on wood) but Boychuk’s 0.31 points per game for 6 million dollars does not look good.

Marc Staal and Kevin Shattenkirk: It is puzzling to many what made the Rangers give a defense who had trouble putting up 20 points in his career to a 5.75 million dollar deal but that is what makes this article interesting you get to see what teams were thinking. Staal had three 20-point seasons in his career, since signing his deal in 2016 he has tallied 28 points in 190 games. The infamous eye injury is what many think has ruined Staal’s career but we can all be honest he never deserved 5.75 million a year at any point probably. At 0.15 points per game Staal is living it up in the nicest part of New York probably while the Rangers are trying to figure out how to get rid of this contact. I also put Kevin Shattenkirk on this list because since coming to the Rangers in 2017-18 being their big free agency signing Shattenkirk has been extremely disappointing to watch. He has missed major time and has only played in 84 games in 1.5 seasons with 36 points. He is on the list because he nearing that mark of contracts teams wish they could re-do.

Andrew MacDonald: Again much like the Marc Staal situation I am not sure what made the Flyers management decide to sign MacDonald to a long term 5 million dollar deal. MacDonald has collected more than 20 points tree times in his career and since his contact signing in 2015 he has a total of 52 points in 192 games. MacDonald’s 0.27 points per game at 5 million dollars does not look good, luckily his contract is up next year.

Ryan Kesler: These two are known for there bad contract, the Ducks have to be itching their heads right now looking back at these contacts. I am sure they would like a re-do after all that has happened this season. Kesler signed with Anaheim in 2017-18 coming off back to back 50-point years he was due for 6.875 million a year I suppose but since signing he has played in a total of 88 games collecting 20 points. For Corey Perry signing in

Milan Lucic and Andrej Sekera: Milan Lucic has had a tough time getting in the swing of things but when he is signed to a 6 million dollar deal and is producing like a 2.5 million dollar guy right now it is tough for Oilers fans to justify his 6 million dollar deal. Sure he had a good year in 2016-17 when he collected 50 points but he went on to tally 34 points in 82 games and now has 11 points in 46 games. He went a full year without scoring a goal as well. Andrej Sekera is the type of player you could have forgot was on the Oilers if you did not pay attention to hockey. Sekera has missed more time than he has played with Edmonton. Since signing in 2016-17 coming off his second best season the Oilers signed him to a 6.5 million dollar deal. Sekera has missed 85 games. Playing in just 43 games since his contact.

Loui Eriksson: Even coming off a 24 point 64 game season the Canucks still signed Eriksson to a long-term 6 million dollar deal. Since his contract Eriksson has played in 99 games collecting 43 points, this contract will look a lot worse in two years when he is 35-years-old and on the cusp on retirement with still a year to go on his contract. Eriksson’s .43 points per game does not look bad but when he was 60-70 points with the Bruins/Stars the Canucks definitely got the short end of the stick here.

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NHL: Ottawa Senators 2018-19 overview

Ottawa Senators: What is the plan for Stone, Karlsson and Duchene heading into the 2018-19 season

By now we all know Ottawa is a dumpster fire. After the whole Mike Hoffman and Erik Karlsson tirade, the Mark Stone signing and signing of Cody Ceci to 4.3 mil a year for one-year, just shows everything is out of sorts over there.

The bigger question though, it seems Karlsson is not going anywhere as of yet? It’s been nearly two months since we heard Karlsson rumors so it is fair to say with training camp approaching soon Karlsson will be on the Senators to start the season. Second, what is this Mark Stone deal? Stone is now the 35th highest paid player in the NHL with his contract comparing to players whose numbers reach in the upwards of 80 points year in and year out. Duchene, they have for 6 mil until next year.

Ok, we have not even mentioned the fact Ottawa has Bobby Ryan locked up until 2021-22 for 7.25 mil a year, Marian Gabriok for another three years at 4.875 mil a year, and Clarke MacArthur for 4.6 mil for two years. These are just some of the awful contracts in Ottawa. There is a zero percent chance they can afford Duchene, Stone, Karlsson at the end of 2019.

Here is my take on this and what I think will happen…

What I think Ottawa will do is trade Stone mid way through the year to a desperate playoff contending team, have them swallow some if not all of his contract, receive a mid-level prospect and high draft pick. Probably do the same with Duchene come trade deadline time and receive a first and some third or later round picks and some NHL ready players for Duchene. As well as Karlsson who will be dealt for a first, high level prospect and more. Therefore Ottawa will just walk into the 2019 NHL draft with a ton of first-round picks, a boat load of cap space and a totally different outlet on their team. Pushing youth development and trusting the process. Why? Well Stone, Duchene and Karlsson are all UFA(unrestricted free agents) therefore if Ottawa were to just let these guys walk for nothing that would potentially be the worst decision in Ottawa history since signing Bobby Ryan for 7.25 mil a year.


NHL NEWS: Hayes & Parenteau Update

P.A. Parenteau has been released by the Detroit Red Wings following his PTO. Parenteau has traveled through six teams in the last six seasons. What’s the next destination for the 34-year-old winger? Right now probably nowhere but perhaps the Scottie Upshall stint in St. Louis does not work, that could be a possible destination. Even Pittsburgh could use Parenteau as a depth guy since their bottom six is shaky. Wherever Parenteau goes, it won’t be anywhere until some of these rookies who cracked NHL rosters get sent down.

Devils sign Jimmy Hayes to a one-way, one-year contract. Hayes played in Boston for the past two seasons and after collecting 5 points in 58 games last season Hayes was released in the summer. On his PTO with New Jersey, Hayes officially cracked the roster. The 27-year-old winger has played on three teams in a six-year career. Hayes will be a bottom six forward for New Jersey and it’s just another depth player for the Devils emerging offense.